Can Slavs be Nazis?

[Watzy]

An old subject, yet never outdated, so here we go:

Is National Socialist ideology designed for nationalists of Slavic nations, including the sympathizers of ex-Axis/pro-Axis movements (Slovakian Hlinka guard, Croat Ustashe, various Serb collaborators ect.)

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The inspiration for this post was Dr. Brandts quote on Triglav's signature:http://forum.skadi.net/member.php?u=946

"slavic" languages are absolutely artificial (Read "slawenlegende"). The "glagolica", invented by a bunch of monks, is nothing but an ancient esperanto, creating new words, definitions and alphabet out of regional slangs.

The craddle of European Civilization comes from the North. All blond people originate from the north. So if you see a blond-blue eyed Slovene, Russian, Czech, Polak ect., you can be 100% sure that his ancient ancestors originated from "Germanics" (Germanic = Nordic).

~Dr. Brandt, former TNP and Skadi member
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Please post a comment along with your vote.

[zenero]

I think this Dr. Brandt is right in a way. Slavs were merely a repulsive culture-group for Hitler. It wasn't only Bolshevik Slavs he hated, he hated the entire Slavic/- east European culture occupied and customated by Slavs.

And actually i laugh at these Russian National Socialists parading with a swastika on a daily working day in Moskow. Altough, they have great numbers of Racial Activists, so i won't bash them. I rather see them shouting: Russia for the Russians !!! Instead of ''Heil Hitlering''

I also agree that Russian people like, Sharapova have their blonde hair from Swedes fighting the Russians or Finns with a high percentage of Scandinivian blood entering the Russian tundra's.

[Watzy]

"No"

The "glagolica", invented by a bunch of monks, is nothing but an ancient esperanto, creating new words, definitions and alphabet out of regional slangs.

According to the naked carvers of the Hunnish runes, Glagolica - the letter of Croatian kings, the first letter of the Croats - was 'an ancient esperanto'.

I dont think any patriotic Croatian, especially Ustasha could agree with this.

The craddle of European Civilization comes from the North.

[Atlas]

Much of the hype about Hitler being unilaterally anti-Slav comes from the propaganda of the true victors of the second world war - the same ones who like to pretend to define the word "Aryan". He was against the non-White elements often grouped into the Slavic racial category, and Slavic traitors such as Slavic Jews, Slavic Moors, the large preponderance of Slavic Communists, and the like, just as he was against non-White, non-Aryan Germans.

The sentiment is expressed quite clearly, over and over again. Those words simply aren't the ones that made it to the modern history books.

I've seen many "Slavs" who look a great deal more White than some of those who get passed off as being "White" amongst our ranks, such as Anthony Chechnini and Alexandro Di Civita who merely get a lot of lip-service because they have money.

[XeniX]

I think Hitler considered the Russians to be, by and large, subhuman mongrels, whose upper-crust had been destroyed by the Communist revolution; however, I don't believe that Hitler considered the Slavs, as a whole, to be subhumans, since they are essentially a language group.

As to the question, "Can Slavs be Nazis"? Sure, but in some cases it seems to be very nonsensical, such as with Serbs, Russians; for them, being either a patriotic nationalist or a "Nazi" would be utterly incompatible.

But since National-Socialism was utterly defeated in 1945, and severely marginalised, there's no authority to dictate who can or cannot call themselves a "nazi".

[zenero]

Originally Posted by Atlas

Much of the hype about Hitler being unilaterally anti-Slav comes from the propaganda of the true victors of the second world war - the same ones who like to pretend to define the word "Aryan".

Are you actually familiar with Hitler's racial policy towards non-Germanic elements? Sure he had a alliance with Latin-Langobordian, Mussolini, sure he gave Himmler permission for building 2 SS - Slavic Muslim divisions. But the point is, he knew the average Russian in '33 had Mongoloid admixture.

He was against the non-White elements often grouped into the Slavic racial category,

Evidence, please. I'm asking evidence for this statement.

[Vindex]

Yeah I can't see why not, Hitler lived in a time when extreme Nationalist thinking existed to the point where Nations of Europe where claiming to be there own Race. As for Germany when Hitler was running for bossman, you needed to have a open anti-Slav attitude if you expected to win anything, plus the Germans had just fought the Slavs in the Great War etc. Looking at it the Nazis did not consider the Slavs as a whole to be sub-Human but they understood and wanted to install a program to correct the mongelization that had happened in the East. They had no beef with a White Russian, but had no love for a Euro-Asian.

[Banat]

I didn't vote yet. If they replaced the Indo-Germanic racial ideology with Slavic/Russian one, and keep all other aspects of National-Socialism, would that count as Nazi, too?

In other words: is Nazi still a Nazi if he eliminates Hitler's personality cult and imposes his own racial superiority thesis instead of Germanic one?

Originally Posted by Zvaci

According to the naked carvers of the Hunnish runes, Glagolica - the letter of Croatian kings, the first letter of the Croats - was 'an ancient esperanto'.

I dont think any patriotic Croatian, especially Ustasha could agree with this.

Neither would any Serbian nationalist, especially Chat-Nick.

Originally Posted by zenero

And actually i laugh at these Russian National Socialists parading with a swastika on a daily working day in Moskow.

Actually, there is nothing wrong with swastika, for it isn't neither only Nazi nor only Germanic symbol.

I rather see them shouting: Russia for the Russians !!! Instead of ''Heil Hitlering''

That is why asked about the term Nazi if it meant unchanged Hitler's National-Socialism. 'Heil-Hitlering' for Russians is somewhat inappropriate, as with Serbs also.

Originally Posted by 88mmFlaK

Sure, but in some cases it seems to be very nonsensical, such as with Serbs, Russians; for them, being either a patriotic nationalist or a "Nazi" would be utterly incompatible.

Why in the world would it be incompatible for either Serbs or Russians to be patriotic nationalist?

[Watzy]

Originally Posted by Banat

I didn't vote yet. If they replaced the Indo-Germanic racial ideology with Slavic/Russian one, and keep all other aspects of National-Socialism, would that count as Nazi, too?

In other words: is Nazi still a Nazi if he eliminates Hitler's personality cult and imposes his own racial superiority thesis instead of Germanic one?

'Nazi' is understood here as a German movement, today represented by German post-war followers of Brand's type. (Notice the quote)

Neither would any Serbian nationalist, especially Chat-Nick.

How about Stojadinovic, Nedic, Prokic, SDK?

[zenero]

Actually, there is nothing wrong with swastika, for it isn't neither only Nazi nor only Germanic symbol.

Yes, but the Russian NS'ers are using the swastika for a racially purpose. Swastika will always be associated with the Hitler era, and not with the Hindu context of using a swastika for religious purposes.